Vaccine Math

vaccine mathAs you may or may not know, I try to avoid this topic but sometimes, for the health of those that are unable to protect themselves, I feel the need to speak up.

Recently I read a news article about how the “Vaccine Mistrust Spreads To The Developing World“, where obviously a news story from a place like Afghanistan can be completely accurate or a total farce. I have no way of verifying any of it.

However, it is very concerning and down right scary to think that people would be choosing to brave Polio than take the (unfounded) risk of Autism, or any of the other associated risks of being vaccinated.

(I included a link to the Polio wikipedia page because I think it’s important to take a minute to recognize just how devastating Polio can really be)

Vaccine Math

Now, this isn’t exactly math so much as a comparison but just follow me on this for a moment:

Your options:

  1. You know that vaccines prevent X, Y and Z… and despite the fear that it may cause Autism, you get your child vaccinated.
  2. You deny vaccinations for your child and now risk contracting X, Y and Z… and despite the fear that it may cause Autism, your child could STILL be Autistic.


  1. Your child may become Autistic.
  2. You now risk contracting X, Y, Z and becoming Autistic PLUS you also put babies, children and others at risk of X, Y, Z that are not yet or unable to be vaccinated.


  1. A child that may become impaired/disabled, with a possibility for life long dependence on a guardian/care provider.
  2. A child that may face illness, life long health issues, neurological impairment/disability, disfigurement, paralysis, death… PLUS, you also put babies, children and others at risk that are not yet or unable to be vaccinated.

The Logic

To me, the logic is pretty straight forward.

I’m not saying that I don’t recognize the rather questionable ingredients that are used… I’m not saying that vaccines couldn’t be safer.

However, to not vaccinate for fear of Autism really makes no sense to me at all. Mostly because even non-vaccinated children can be Autistic. But also because of the HUGE RISK in doing so.

And it’s not just your risk. You put others at risk as well. A baby may not be able to survive a battle with vaccine preventable illnesses… people with weakened immune systems may not be able to survive them either. They are either not yet vaccinated or unable to be vaccinated. They depend on you and I.

Safe Vaccine Advocacy

Being pro vaccine safety is entirely different than being anti-vaccine.

If you push for safer vaccines, I’ll support you. Even vaccine makers can admit that they could be safer.

Safer schedules? I’m no scientist. I can find articles arguing back and forth, from doctors no less, so I’m not in a position to say but I don’t question it so long as the vaccines are still given.

I’ve written about this before, I’ve also taken a stance earlier this year and this post is an extension of that stance.

Not saying something might mean another innocent baby being infected with whooping cough, or further measles outbreaks.

Don’t react emotionally, don’t base life and death decisions on a Youtube video. 

Do the math for yourself and ask yourself, what risks are you really avoiding and more importantly, what risks are you really taking?

About Stuart Duncan

My name is Stuart Duncan, creator of My oldest son (Cameron) has Autism while my younger son (Tyler) does not. I am a work from home web developer with a background in radio. I do my very best to stay educated and do what ever is necessary to ensure my children have the tools they need to thrive. I share my stories and experiences in an effort to further grow and strengthen the online Autism community and to promote Autism Understanding and Acceptance.

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8 Responses to Vaccine Math

  1. Kirsten Jessiman July 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm #

    Thank you for putting into words something that I want to scream from the rooftops. I am so glad to not be alone in my opinion on this.
    What does my head in is that many of these people who choose not to vaccinate “in case” their child gets autism, who thereby expose their own and other kids to all kinds of dreadful illnesses, ALSO lay guilt trips on those of us who DO choose to vaccinate.

  2. Debbie Krencicki July 26, 2011 at 4:16 pm #

    THANK YOU for being the voice of reason! So much harm has been done by whoever did that study that “proved” vaccines cause autism. It has since come out that the director of that study falsified his results and is actually in jail for doing so, but people like Jenny McCarthy perpetuate the myth. Even if vaccines did cause autism (which they don’t). Children don’t DIE from autism. Children do die from diseases like measles, whooping cough and polio. Why would a parent even consider taking that risk?

  3. Sue Keller July 26, 2011 at 11:51 pm #

    Please introduce me to a child with autism who has never been vaccinated…..

  4. Tarasview July 26, 2011 at 11:51 pm #

    yes! I completely agree 100%. Well said 🙂

  5. Stuart Duncan July 27, 2011 at 12:03 am #

    Sue, I have met several parents who refused to vaccinate their child and yet they still developed Autism.

    Probably the best example, however, is Kim Stagliano.. whom I’m sure you’ve heard of. Her youngest daughter was never vaccinated yet has Autism.

  6. Luvmyboys July 27, 2011 at 11:09 pm #

    First I just need to correct someone who commented here. The person who was jailed for falsifying studies/research is not the person who produced the autism/vaccine study. The MMR was proven to be linked to enterocolitis by dr wakefield.The head of BMJ did not want that info published. Aside from wakefield being ridiculed by Deer, the BMJ had their connection,the CDC, pay off(with alot of $$) a researcher to formulate false documentation proving otherwise so that they could counter dr wakefields results. They got what they wanted from Danish researcher Paul Thorsen & continued to spread his findings in an attempt to cover up the truth. Recently Thorsen was found guilty of 13 counts of fraud-he used the research $ on himself & bought houses,cars,vaca’s,etc with it. And truth came out-that HIS studies were FAKE. Im not going to change anybody’s opinion. Just had to clear up the facts.
    But as far as this post-everyone is entitled to their own opinion,esp when making decisions about their own kids. Some parents feel all vaccines are not worth the risks, autism being just one of them. Im pretty sure,for the ones who are saud to be afraid of autism from the vaccines, its not limited to just autism. I dont think its fair to make a blanket statement that every parent who refuses vaccines is afraid of autism.
    The idea of pro-vaccine vs anti-vaccine portrayed in the media was created by the powers that be. For years the great debate has forced ppl to take a side & argue a stance. While everyone is busy arguing, the truth&facts remain untold, money continued to be made, & everybody is happy. How convenient.
    It is not a black/white issue. Or even black/white/gray issue as u stated in this post.
    Whether or not one believes that vaccines can trigger autism, is just one issue surrounding the skepticity of vaccines & continuing to argue about it is pointless. What is important is the safety & efficacy of vaccines as mandated by the CDC schedule. What the autism/vaccine topic has done for many parents (myself included), is shed light on vaccines today, how many are given, how they are given, the ppl who make them & their shady motives. Parents fear vaccines for a bunch of valid reasons & far too many are complaining of the same thing after they learn the hard way. Its not their fault if in educating others to be informed & make smarter choices other parents misconstrue what they are saying or assume them to be ‘anti-vax.’ Unless a person describes themselves as anti-vax, ppl shouldnt assume.
    Real Antivax ppl dont fear autism from vaccines. They usually have decided to be antivax long before their kids were a twinkle in their eye. Its no ques for them, as most live completely all natural, organic, earth lovin, tree huggin lives. They dont believe in formula feeding, giving any kind of medicine & feel mother nature heals. They believe breastmilk supports immune function & using vaccines goes against their lifestyle in every way. And theres nothing wrong w it!
    I am not pro or anti vax. I am for smart vax.
    Todays sched is crazy! No reason to overload these poor babies. No need to give combo vaxes. My son had 7 vaccines in 1 visit. U think they told me? Nope. When they say ur baby is getting 3 shots they dont explain- 3 shots, BUT 7 vaccines in all by way of combo vaxs. They dont tell u combo vaxes (pediarix) DO have thimerosal as the combos require preservatives. Aside from the combos, the combination of single vaxes stated to be given together accdg to schd have NOT been tested together by CDC/FDA. Parents dont know to ask for inserts as they contain very important info. And they dont offer it bc if parents read all the ingredients first they’d never agree to them. Thats a prob! When a parent wants to wait til their kids cold is over, dr’s convince them its ok to get shots. Thats a prob! When parents complain of reactions they r dismissed & ignored by their dr’s. Thats a big prob! Not all vaccines are necessary for every child. Ex-a child whos not in daycare does not need prevnar. Rotovirus vax is BS. Its just a reg stomach virus! Chickenpx is not a deadly disease. I had chickenpox as a kid. One size does NOT fit all. So many babies suffer & SIDS is closely related to vaccines. Prior testing for mito & other disorders should be required!!!
    U say who would choose to risk polio over being vaccinated & risk autism. What I’m saying is that IT SHOULDNT BE A CHOICE! Theres a prob w our current immunization system when a parent has to choose one or the other. We should be able to vaccinate our babies against polio, w/out having thoughts of autism & other disorders in the back of our mind. Polio vaccine, in single form, w/out toxic adjuvants, when baby is a lil older, when health isnt compromised by sickness,w family history considered & genetic testing done to prevent vaccine injury.

  7. Quokka October 20, 2011 at 3:33 am #

    Luvmyboys – you have the right to your own opinions but not your own facts. Dr Wakefield did not prove any such thing. In fact repeated attempts by other researchers to repeat his findings have failed.

    Paul Thornson stole money – the results of the research – of which he was only one of thirteen researchers who completed it BTW are not in question. He was not even a lead researcher on the team!

    Conspiracy theories about “the powers that be” who make lots of money – Wakefield made tens of thousands himself are fun aren’t they. They are not however facts.

    In terms of the arguement for too many vax too soon – there is no scientific evidence that the REDUCED number of antigens in the current schedule from the schedule 40 years ago do any harm.

    Rotavirus is not a regular stomach viras – hundreds of children died each year from rotavirus prior to the introduction of the vaccine.

    Research has actually shown that vaccinated children are LESS likely to die from SIDS so that is just nonsense.

    If children have a family history of mitochondrial disorders, allergies etc. they are not vaccinated. There are a number of children that can’t be vacinnated becuase of these risks – they rely on the people around them being vaccinated so as not to pass diseases that can and do kill onto them.

    Paedsd take the time to explain these issues to parents and I advse them to talk to their doctors – the ones with the medical training – not Jenny McCarthy when making medical decisions.

  8. Cambria August 21, 2012 at 11:41 pm #

    About vaccines and autism: I am a person with autism, and my mother tells me that I had always, even from 2 months old, that I have exhibited autistic behaviors. I do not know what age they started vaccinations in 1977-78, but I do not believe they would vaccinate at birth. Also, my mother, father and a late aunt of mine exhibited behaviors of autism as well.

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