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	<title>Comments on: My Child Has No Concept of Time Thanks To Autism</title>
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		<title>By: Adelaide Dupont</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartduncan.name/autism/my-child-has-no-concept-of-time-thanks-to-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Adelaide Dupont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian Lindsay Weekes has written about Autistic Standard Time.

http://linds.net/time.html

Marion Blackmore first came up with the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australian Lindsay Weekes has written about Autistic Standard Time.</p>
<p><a href="http://linds.net/time.html" rel="nofollow">http://linds.net/time.html</a></p>
<p>Marion Blackmore first came up with the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueNight</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartduncan.name/autism/my-child-has-no-concept-of-time-thanks-to-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueNight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time is essentially sequential, and I find I have a VERY hard time with anything sequential unless I understand it on a functional level first.  As a logically intuitive person, sequence and consequence are most understandable to me in math and the alphabet.

I don&#039;t remember having difficulty with time, but I do remember being excited by the concepts of other days in relation to today.  &quot;Today is the yesterday of tomorrow!&quot; I would exclaim proudly, to my mother&#039;s delight, and then, &quot;Today is the tomorrow of yesterday!&quot;

Science illustrations can sometimes penetrate where words cannot.  Time may be visualised as a spiral.  Take an extra-long white shoelace and wrap it around a consistent-width cylinder, such as a smooth-sided water bottle.  Make sure it touches, but does not overlap.  Color one &quot;side&quot; of the spiral with a black marker and leave the other white.  When you unwrap it, you have a series of days and nights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is essentially sequential, and I find I have a VERY hard time with anything sequential unless I understand it on a functional level first.  As a logically intuitive person, sequence and consequence are most understandable to me in math and the alphabet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember having difficulty with time, but I do remember being excited by the concepts of other days in relation to today.  &#8220;Today is the yesterday of tomorrow!&#8221; I would exclaim proudly, to my mother&#8217;s delight, and then, &#8220;Today is the tomorrow of yesterday!&#8221;</p>
<p>Science illustrations can sometimes penetrate where words cannot.  Time may be visualised as a spiral.  Take an extra-long white shoelace and wrap it around a consistent-width cylinder, such as a smooth-sided water bottle.  Make sure it touches, but does not overlap.  Color one &#8220;side&#8221; of the spiral with a black marker and leave the other white.  When you unwrap it, you have a series of days and nights.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartduncan.name/autism/my-child-has-no-concept-of-time-thanks-to-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sun dials might be beyond my 4 year old (who turns 5 in 3 days by the way).

However, I do get what you all mean by finding other methods.

For example, Cameron&#039;s been counting down the &quot;sleeps&quot; until his birthday. He knows when it&#039;s day time, and night time and that his sleeps divide the days. So in 3 sleeps, he turns 5.

Since writing this and talking to people, I&#039;ve encountered many people who&#039;ve never really thought about the concept of time being foreign to people with Autism. I wonder why it&#039;s not discussed more.

Perhaps this is a big part of what helped Einstein? Maybe once he grasped the concept of time in his own way, he was able to understand it to a greater degree than most people... just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sun dials might be beyond my 4 year old (who turns 5 in 3 days by the way).</p>
<p>However, I do get what you all mean by finding other methods.</p>
<p>For example, Cameron&#8217;s been counting down the &#8220;sleeps&#8221; until his birthday. He knows when it&#8217;s day time, and night time and that his sleeps divide the days. So in 3 sleeps, he turns 5.</p>
<p>Since writing this and talking to people, I&#8217;ve encountered many people who&#8217;ve never really thought about the concept of time being foreign to people with Autism. I wonder why it&#8217;s not discussed more.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is a big part of what helped Einstein? Maybe once he grasped the concept of time in his own way, he was able to understand it to a greater degree than most people&#8230; just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Audrey has enormous difficulty with this and we have tried various strategies to help her.  She doesn&#039;t understand elapsed time at all...if you tell her something will happen &quot;soon&quot; or &quot;later&quot; you might as well be saying a million years from now.  This causes her great upset when you are talking about something preferred that she is going to get later.  Audrey does the same thing as Cameron...everything just happened or happened &quot;yesterday&quot;.  I always respond &quot;that was a long time ago&quot; but she doesn&#039;t get it.

I love Blue Night&#039;s suggestions because Audrey is every into the moon&#039;s phases, etc....but she may still be a little young to put it all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audrey has enormous difficulty with this and we have tried various strategies to help her.  She doesn&#8217;t understand elapsed time at all&#8230;if you tell her something will happen &#8220;soon&#8221; or &#8220;later&#8221; you might as well be saying a million years from now.  This causes her great upset when you are talking about something preferred that she is going to get later.  Audrey does the same thing as Cameron&#8230;everything just happened or happened &#8220;yesterday&#8221;.  I always respond &#8220;that was a long time ago&#8221; but she doesn&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>I love Blue Night&#8217;s suggestions because Audrey is every into the moon&#8217;s phases, etc&#8230;.but she may still be a little young to put it all together.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueNight</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueNight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a person with Aspergers, when I entered the workforce I realized I did not know the numbers of the spring and summer months.  I knew September was the 9th month, because that was the month of my birth, but is May or July the 6th month?  I forced myself to memorize them, over the course of about a week.

As to Cameron:  since people like me are logically intuitive, but incapable of understanding the physical world except through the lens of science, you may have to build his sense of time from the very basics, matching concepts to concrete mental pictures:

Start with a day.  A day is a measurement of the Earth&#039;s rotation, as described by the sun&#039;s relative position in the sky.  Noon is when the sun is directly &quot;above&quot; us, and midnight is the exact opposite.  The sundial is a tool that was invented to track the time of day using shadow.  (At this point, build a sundial with him, and have him mark the shadow on the ground or with chalk at noon and other hours during the day.)

Months were originally based on the phases of the moon.  Weeks are marked by the moon&#039;s quarter phase changes; it takes four weeks from full moon to full moon.

As for seconds, choose a place for him to run to and back, and time him.

Emphasize at some point that what he is seeing are measurements of time, and not time itself.  Time is like a river; you can measure its depth, but the water that is here now is not the water that was here before.  (Being at an actual river may help.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person with Aspergers, when I entered the workforce I realized I did not know the numbers of the spring and summer months.  I knew September was the 9th month, because that was the month of my birth, but is May or July the 6th month?  I forced myself to memorize them, over the course of about a week.</p>
<p>As to Cameron:  since people like me are logically intuitive, but incapable of understanding the physical world except through the lens of science, you may have to build his sense of time from the very basics, matching concepts to concrete mental pictures:</p>
<p>Start with a day.  A day is a measurement of the Earth&#8217;s rotation, as described by the sun&#8217;s relative position in the sky.  Noon is when the sun is directly &#8220;above&#8221; us, and midnight is the exact opposite.  The sundial is a tool that was invented to track the time of day using shadow.  (At this point, build a sundial with him, and have him mark the shadow on the ground or with chalk at noon and other hours during the day.)</p>
<p>Months were originally based on the phases of the moon.  Weeks are marked by the moon&#8217;s quarter phase changes; it takes four weeks from full moon to full moon.</p>
<p>As for seconds, choose a place for him to run to and back, and time him.</p>
<p>Emphasize at some point that what he is seeing are measurements of time, and not time itself.  Time is like a river; you can measure its depth, but the water that is here now is not the water that was here before.  (Being at an actual river may help.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartduncan.name/autism/my-child-has-no-concept-of-time-thanks-to-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My DD is 7 &amp; still very confused about time.  We have to use visual schedules; these help her particularly if there is a change in routine. 

Tammy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My DD is 7 &amp; still very confused about time.  We have to use visual schedules; these help her particularly if there is a change in routine. </p>
<p>Tammy</p>
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